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also I didn't mean to suggest that either you're for affirmative action or you're a racist. but that evaluating those policies (which might I guess include the legislators advocating for them) is a better way to tackle racial disparities rather than focusing on white nationalist groups. and yeah, branding anyone as "racist" is counter-productive even when addressing inequalities in outcome.

I still have uncertainty about guys like Trump, Sessions, etc. but that can be my problem.
Aug 19, 2017 11:31 PM
Arlie Russell Hochschild has something kinda similar to that in Strangers in Their Own Land with her "deep story" (or "feels as if story") of the people she met in Louisiana:

Arlie Russell HochschildIn this scene, you're waiting in line as in a pilgrimage. It's facing up a hill at the top of which is the American dream. Your feet are tired. You've been in that line a long time. The line is not moving, and you don't have any ill will as you experience yourself toward anyone, but you are quite riveted on the goal of getting some reward for the hard work that you've put in. In scene two, you notice ahead that somebody seems to be cutting in line, and you think how unfair. That's just not right. I obey the rules. I'm not cutting in line, and somebody else is.

So who are these line-cutters? Well, they are blacks who through affirmative action have access to jobs formerly reserved for whites. They're women - a much larger group - who now have access to jobs formerly reserved for men. They're immigrants, refugees. And in your perception, even public sector workers actually also cutting in line for these Louisianans would be the endangered brown pelican with its oil-drenched wings because I many times heard people say, well, you know, these environmentalists are putting animals ahead of us people.

So all of this happens, and then you turn around, and you see that the supervisor of this long line, the person designated to keep order in it, Barack Obama, seems to be signaling to the people who have cut in line. He seems to be sponsoring them and egging them on, encouraging them. So you think, well, wait a minute. He's not taking care of me. He's setting me back because my position in line is going backward. And then they felt in this line as they're pushed back, an injustice had been done.

and they agreed with the deep story. although the people she met are very far from the alt-right demonstrators seen in Virginia (in a good way).
Aug 17, 2017 8:43 AM
yeah it's all very, very hard to sift through.

I don't think everyone who voted for Trump is on the same level morally as the alt-right. I still privately wonder what it would take for Trump to lose their support. but their support is less important than the support of Pence, Ryan, McConnell, etc. so maybe that's where everyone's attention ought to be.

and truthfully, I am personally not 100% sure that Trump is a genuine, dyed-in-the-wool white nationalist, neo-confederate, whatever. I know that he went very far out of his way to defend the actions of those that are. and I don't know if any explanation would earn my respect (political calculation, contrarianism towards the media/Democrats, maybe he just doesn't understand?).

maybe I'm just on my guard given how quick he has been to unequivocally condemn others for far less. and yeah, I doubt any of that is grounds for impeachment (if that is what you mean by "eliminate Trump"). not in the way that the Russia stuff might be.

also there are some crazy, violent leftists out there and there always will be. who is the highest-ranking politician or government official in their corner?
Aug 16, 2017 11:14 PM
I'm reading the transcript and can't stop laughing because c'mon, look at this guy! something is very wrong with me today.

anyway I admit you were right, Richard Spencer. and next time I'll think twice about doubting you.
Aug 15, 2017 10:35 PM
"Define alt-right to me. No, define it for me. Define it for me. What about the alt-left that came charging at, as you say, the alt-right? Do they have any semblance of guilt? How about the fact that they came charging with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs? Do they have a problem? I think they do..... You had a group on the one side that was very bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. No one wants to say that, but I'll say that now."

ohhhhh boy
Aug 15, 2017 9:46 PM
Captain Terror
?Oxnard Montalvo
yeah you're right. you miss out on a lot of thrills living in a secular society.

I kind of envy the past generations that were actually offended by Frankenstein. I bet it's way scarier that way.

at least we can still experience it through Ana Torrent.
Aug 15, 2017 3:45 AM
Captain Terror

One thing the millennial viewer of the Exorcist will not likely understand is the element of blasphemy that accompanied the film in the 70s.?

yeah you're right. you miss out on a lot of thrills living in a secular society.

watching it as a movie "of its time", I always saw it as riding the same wave of fear that was hitting conservatives responding to the counterculture (my son/daughter is acting and talking in a way that scares me, I don't recognize him/her anymore, clearly the absence of God is to blame). anyway I'm not surprised James Baldwin found it underwhelming.
Aug 15, 2017 2:10 AM
yerp, off to a bad start.

and nice use of "colorful" too like he's Strother Martin in Butch Cassidy.
Aug 14, 2017 8:18 PM
even if he had denounced the alt-right from the very start, I'm not one of those people who thinks those words would have acted like some magic spell. certainly not in the wake of his previous authoritarian/nationalist/bigoted rhetoric (and policy). I can remember Obama critics getting hung up on him not identifying Islamic terrorism unequivocally enough as if that held more weight than his policies.

so I'm not holding my breath that one Trump speech is going to signal a shift in Trump policy but I'd like to be proven wrong.

Aug 14, 2017 7:10 PM
Janson Jinnistan
DaMUI mean, I'm clearly ignorant. I knew Trump was playing to white-priders when he would talk about Mexican rapists or indefinite bans on all Muslims. I knew Sessions was bad news, and Bannon too. We all know (hopefully) that America has systemic problems pertaining to race. But to see this abscess of hatred boil over and pop is just... it's fucking horrifying. You want to think that things are getting better, however slow or lurching that progress is. You want to think that seeing more and more diversity in media is a positive sign. Seeing more diverse representation in government is a positive sign. Not because non-whites will invariably solve the problem, but because America is full of different kinds of people, and a wider variety of representation means more voices may be heard. More people can be considered and maybe better understood, and maybe the opportunity to reconcile differences or inequalities can come to the fore in constructive ways.

In many ways, I think that this more aggressive push on the part of these supremacist groups that we saw yesterday is actually a positive sign that even they recognize that the overwhelming social trend is against them, that the notions of diversity and inclusiveness are becoming the norm rather than liberal enclave exceptions. ?Their virulence is shocking, and should be, but it also points toward desperation and gloves-off panic. ?This will also attend some short term lashing out and clawing away, but at least the state no longer employs the violence of ravenous dogs and fire hoses. ?The past is still more terrifying than where we are today.

yeah, I hope so too.

I still have my concerns but I still hope the decade-by-decade trends show us going in the right direction.
Aug 14, 2017 1:48 AM
also these are somewhat related.

I'm not blaming lawmakers for the actions of that one guy. but I still wonder why this sentiment was held at all.
Aug 13, 2017 6:35 PM
NotReallyYARNAutism Guy
Vanishingly few people who are accused of racism would ever self-avow racist beliefs. And we need to be very careful about how we treat these accusations. If the person being accused does not self-avow racism, that person deserves the benefit of the doubt as to what they stand for if for no other reason than empirical investigation will reveal that at least 9 out 10 accusations of racism/fascism turn out to be nothing more than strategic allegations and/or emotional outbursts.

then maybe I'll just stick to the lawmakers advocating stuff like restricted voting rights, dismantling affirmative action, minimum sentencing laws, travel bans from Muslim-majority countries, etc.

I'll always assume that anyone who supports those lawmakers does so in spite of their discriminatory policies but then wonder what it is that makes those policies worth tolerating to those people.

although it is always possible that those lawmakers don't see themselves as racist either ("it's not about race, it's about....."). but if it still produces a disparity amongst racial lines, then that must be addressed, yeah? 'cause ideally that's not what we want our laws to do.

(I might kinda veering from fringe racists to institutional racism but I'm just trying to work out how best to get at this)

I'm also constantly reminded how Hillary seemed to suffer a greater political backlash by clumsily calling out bigotry (the deplorables comment) than Trump did for espousing/encouraging the actual bigotry. if that matters any.
Aug 13, 2017 6:34 PM
yeah I've become that guy who tells people that he "doesn't watch TV" but only because I'm so so so so inundated with choice. so I make lots of dumb reasons so I can justify ignoring something.
Aug 13, 2017 12:05 AM
this shit is always hard for me to grapple with. I don't like it when people use terrorists to judge all Muslims. I don't like it when people use rioters to judge all BLM members. I don't like it when people use drug dealers/rapists to judge all immigrants (and so forth). I don't want to use the Charlottesville protestors to judge all Trump supporters. but I have to concede that Trump himself has espoused many authoritarian/nationalist/bigoted sentiments that if not accepted, were at least tolerated by everyone who voted for him (or, I assume, they wouldn't have voted for him). and that maybe not enough was done to prevent these views from shifting the Overton window (assuming that the majority of the Trump coalition find these views reprehensible). there's a lot more I could say but I don't know how much of it will mirror the gripes about the "permissive society" I've been hearing from conservatives all my life, gripes that cast too wide a net in looking for the perpetrators. unless we really do need to cast that net.

anyway, we better start having more national dialogues about white-anger-politics before Trump's supporters realize he is leaving office, impeachment or otherwise. if they're this angry now, well....
Aug 12, 2017 11:54 PM
maybe not super-duper controversial but: I think Mike Scully gets too much shit for The Simpsons's drop in quality. there were plenty of crap episodes in seasons 9-12 and I'm sure Scully bears some responsibility. but he was also tasked with running a show that was in its 9th season and had mined plenty of ideas (especially since this is a show where everything has to snap back to a "status quo" by the end i.e. no big changes to the characters, setting, etc). even before season 9, the show was starting to get increasingly cartoony (the Mary Poppins episode, the X-Files episode) and self-referential (Poochie, Frank Grimes), signs that it was showing its age. plus around that time the show was bleeding a lot of its best writers for stuff like Futurama.

and imo the drop in quality from season 8 to 9 and from 9 to 10 wasn't terribly steep to make me think it was all Scully's fault. any show would be blessed to have 5 seasons of good quality, let alone 8 or 9.
Aug 12, 2017 5:33 PM
because this is Trump, I have no idea how serious we should take his statement on Venezuela. in what may or may not be sheer coincidence, Russia/Rosneft have plenty of reasons for making sure Venezuela stays compliant.

how Putin really feels about Maduro's leadership or the US intervening or what the full scope behind Trump's decision-making, I don't know. there's stuff in the article, but I'm too paranoid right now to know what I'm really looking at. it's just another thing I'm throwing on the Trump/Putin pile for the time being.
Aug 12, 2017 4:05 AM
I feel you, there definitely is an overabundance of good-quality content (or even less-than good quality content that is still of interest). I've just become comfortable with not making "being up to date" on movies/TV a top priority in my life. maybe I don't have time to watch GoT today because I'm watching 2 other shows. but it will be there in the future when the moment is right. I may never watch it all, but that's life I guess. for the present, there will always be other things to talk about when I'm out socializing.
Aug 11, 2017 1:32 AM
also: "I want to thank him because we're trying to cut down our payroll and as far as I'm concerned I'm very thankful that he let go of a large number of people because now we have a smaller payroll.... There's no real reason for them to go back. I greatly appreciate the fact that we've been able to cut our payroll of the United States. We're going to save a lot of money."

just who is this guy? now I can't help but think there is more to this than some water sports tape. there just has to be.

I just want to know how crazy I am for thinking the things that I am thinking, that's all.
Aug 11, 2017 1:23 AM