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SuperdogHe's already started walking back all his campaign pledges. That was quick. Hope all the Trump voters are pleased with themselves.

Trump is a proven con man. And the most dangerous thing you can do, when dealing with a proven con man, is to ever assume you aren't the mark.
Nov 12, 2016 8:17 PM
Trying to get my mind off things, I just bought Tyranny, the RPG in which you play one of the top agents of a Sauron-style Evil Overlord who has won his war of conquest and is now trying to establish absolute dominion over the world.

Not sure if that's the best premise to get my mind off things, but it looks good.

I've always been annoyed at how RPGs tend to divide morality between being an absolutely selfless paragon and being a total sociopath who indulges in pointless cruelty for the sake of pointless cruelty. I'm keen to see if they can make a game in which you can be smart evil: willing to be utterly ruthless when the situation calls for it, but to also know when your interests are best served by not alienating everyone around and ruining people's lives just because you can.
Nov 12, 2016 1:45 AM
Esoteric Allusion
NimChimpskyLetters from 1st graders to Trump:

Jesus Christ. I don't know if I needed to read that. And people are describing me as the kill-joy in these threads.

To make this thread still more uplifting...

Calls to crisis and suicide prevention hotlines surge post-election

Judging by that article, the biggest source of anxiety seems to be LGBTQ people. I can understand it, too, even though Trump himself doesn't seem to target any vitriol at them. For eight years, we've had slow but steady progress on that front, more than I ever would have imagined during the Bush years. Now, with Pence as VP and the Republicans dominating everything, it's fair to wonder how much regression we're about to see.
Nov 12, 2016 12:39 AM
Esoteric AllusionI am convinced the real problem, or rather the biggest problem, here is the existence of propagandistic right-wing media. As a lover of free speech, I just don't know what can be done about it. I'm at a complete and total loss. My only thought is hope that technological changes eventually blunt its influence.

I would think the bigger issue isn't the propagandistic ring-wing media but the mass susceptibility to the propagandistic right-wing media. There are left-leaning conspiracies, like Bush being behind 9/11, which persisted and persist, and there are no shortage of leftists who believe them, but I would be astounded to discover 2/3rds of Clinton and Obama voters accepted such ideas and were constantly on the look-out for still more crazy left-wing conspiracy theories to believe.

Meanwhile, huge numbers of Trump voters seem to eat whatever horseshit Rush Limbaugh or Breitbart or Infowars or whatever else throws at them with gusto merely because it flatters their beliefs.

A Republic only functions when the voting public is capable of basic critical thinking. If they are, then baseless propaganda will fall flat as people find no evidence to support it or see that it's absurd on its face. If they aren't, we end up where we currently are.
Nov 11, 2016 5:42 PM
theVictorianCamera's annoying but this rant is kind of great.

I understand the temptation to castigate the left for calling everyone bigots and racists and misogynists and homophobes rather than engaging them in argument, but I think emphasizing it too much gives many Trump supporters more of a pass than they deserve.

Two thirds of Trump voters believe that Obama is a secret Muslim. Many more were attracted to the Donald in the first place because he was the most vocal champion of the idea that Obama was born in Kenya. If someone holds to beliefs like that, do you really think the only barrier to reaching them is to treat their views with respect, politely hear out their arguments, then counter with strong evidence to demonstrate that they're mistaken?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the means of reaching these people is to shriek at them about how racist they are. I just don't know what the left possibly could do to reach such people.
Nov 11, 2016 5:17 PM
Think I'm gonna take a break from RT and the news in general for awhile. I can't do anything about all of this, so all it does is feed my despair at a time when I can't really afford to live in despair.
Nov 11, 2016 5:43 AM
Paris the GoatMaybe losing this election to Trump will be the kick in the ass millennials need to vote in a midterm election?

I spent the whole election hearing people gripe about how they weren't sure which candidate was worse. It's my hope Trump will make that issue clear to them pretty soon and fire up enthusiasm to vote against him and those who support him in the years ahead.
Nov 9, 2016 11:51 PM
One thing I wonder: is this going to be just the start of a wave of ring-wing populism undercutting liberal democracies across the western world, underestimated by the establishment until it's too late?

Britain had Brexit. Now we have this. Will it stop there, or will France or Germany or Sweden or Belgium or wherever be the next to fall?
Nov 9, 2016 5:35 PM
Watching the concession speech. Kaine sounds like he's holding back tears.
Nov 9, 2016 4:41 PM
wirthlingEven if Pence is horrible for us domestically, maybe his influence will have a mitigating effect on Trump's bad ideas regarding Russia, NATO, treaties, and trade deals??

I'd like to think so, but Trump basically directly contradicted his own VP about Russia in one of the debates, even acknowledging that they hadn't talked about it and he disagrees.

Trump paid a political price for supporting Putin, but continued doing so anyway in spite of all criticism. I think it's a genuine feeling on his part and one he won't abandon.
Nov 9, 2016 4:32 PM
whathaveicreatedHuh, I figured you were Ivan.

Anyway, my response to this is going to be to become a real pain in the ass, outspoken, social justice warrior type.

As odd as it sounds, I expect the social justice types you mention will be among the major beneficiaries of the Trump presidency. Their entire ideology is founded on the idea that mainstream society is racist, sexist, homophobic, hateful and oppressive...and now we have a president who will, at every turn, provide plenty of evidence to support that view.

Just as many of the people here were alienated by George W. Bush, so I expect the current younger generation will be alienated just as much or moreso by Trump, and when they are the social justice movement will be there to welcome them with open arms.
Nov 9, 2016 3:17 PM
Mr. Demiurge
whathaveicreatedDid we ever figure out who you are?

Turkish Delight/Ivan the Terrible, of course.

Like anyone new ever comes here now.

OMFG, awesome.

I'm flattered.
Nov 9, 2016 3:00 PM
wirthling5. Trump is obviously unreliable and remorseless about it. It is possible he will renege on every single thing he ever promised.

I never thought I'd find Trump's lies comforting, but in this case I find comfort here, as well. He has a proven record of ripping off the people who are stupid enough to believe what he says.

It's entirely possible that will include his voters, for whom he will make only the most token efforts to fulfill his promises while in practice being just kind of lazy and ineffective and relishing the fact that he's shown all the 'haters' how much better he is than them.
Nov 9, 2016 2:51 PM
Esoteric AllusionOn a personal note, it has gradually dawned on me that these election results likely will choke off the financial infrastructure that underlies my job and this is probably a personal financial catastrophe for me. So even the personal rays of hope others are going with is pretty dark from where I sit.

I have personal problems with depression and anxiety that I had been coping with recently much better than I have in the past. Now I can feel those demons stirring again as I contemplate the enormity of what all of this means, both for the world at large and likely for each of us individually as Americans.

It's going to be a hard road ahead for all of us.

And no, no sleep yet.
Nov 9, 2016 2:17 PM
BigwigNo, I will not eat my shoe. I went by reliable statistics. I will not apologize for that.

Yeah, I know. I'm in the same boat.

Most of us did.

What else were we going to rely on? Intuition?
Nov 9, 2016 11:07 AM
wirthlingI have no idea what to do on a political level, but on a personal level, to deal with this, I am going to try to make lemonade out of this shit and am going to try to use this as the kick in the ass inspiration I need to stop sitting around waiting for life and the world to get better on its own, which is clearly not going to happen, and so starting today I am getting serious about making my own life better. Going to try sobriety as first step. I quit smoking the day before I separated from my ex-wife and I stuck with that. I can do this. And so maybe I can at least walk into the apocalypse feeling a bit less shitty about myself.

We've reached very similar conclusions. I don't feel like there's anything I can really do about the state of the country or the world, so I'll focus on improving myself: more exercise, better eating, more focus on projects I'm working on and so forth. It will also allow me to keep my mind off things I have no control over.

Also, still can't sleep. Took a shower instead.
Nov 9, 2016 11:06 AM
Mr. Demiurge
whathaveicreatedDid we ever figure out who you are?

Turkish Delight/Ivan the Terrible, of course.

Like anyone new ever comes here now.

Ha! Called it.

I can't imagine it was that hard to figure out. I stepped into chat tonight and Det's first question was 'Are you Ivan?'

But yeah, not really feeling up to playing 'guess who' at the moment.
Nov 9, 2016 9:10 AM
whathaveicreatedDid we ever figure out who you are?

Turkish Delight/Ivan the Terrible, of course.

Like anyone new ever comes here now.
Nov 9, 2016 9:00 AM
Esoteric AllusionThis is the first person we've elected to the presidency with no government or military leadership experience, correct? I'm rifling through the presidents in my head and I can't think of another one.

That's what all the news outlets are saying. First ever.

I'm sure he'll do wonderfully.
Nov 9, 2016 8:05 AM