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chunkylover
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HoboJoeReports circulating that Kyrie asked to be traded away from Cleveland so he can be a focal point. LeBron is so out of there next summer.

Cleveland is a fucking joke. They lucked into one of the three greatest players ever and have totally fucked it up not once but twice.

Why now though? Why not wait a year?


Maybe an attempt to control the narrative on his part. I think he wants to be the man somewhere instead of being a side kick, and would also like to do it somewhere besides Cleveland, in part for the reasons HoboJoe mentioned - Cleveland is not a particularly well run franchise and features a controlling, dickhead owner. For now he can claim he wants to bounce because he doesn't want to be a sidekick anymore, but if he were to wait a year and LeBron leaves, then it could be framed as Kyrie bailing on the team when the going gets rough.

He's also apparently given the Cavs a list of teams he would like to be traded to: the Spurs, T-Wolves, Knicks, and Heat.

His trade list is all over the place but I guess if you want a poorly-run team, it's better to be in New York than Cleveland.

I underestimated the role his apparent friction with LeBron is playing in his demand--I figured the odds of being traded into a better championship situation than Cleveland for 2016-17 are pretty slim, so why not play out and then find somewhere to land as an alpha dog (TM--Bill Simmons). As a basketball fan, I'm annoyed that Dan Gilbert and Kyrie Irving have conspired to waste a year of 30-something LeBron's life.
Jul 23, 2017 2:50 AM
Paquito
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Paquito
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Paquito

You and WHIC need to learn to be less salty when you get called on a bad argument. It's not a good look.

What the hell are you talking about? I made about 3 points in support of whic's argument--which I wouldn't fully endorse as stated but is a defensible take on the show--and you haven't said anything about them.

I never criticized WHIC's defense of what he thinks he show is "about". I pointed out that the show isn't really "about" anything, and that you could make an argument for any number of overarching themes. This should have been obvious when I pointed out we had this discussion last year.

If it can have any number of overarching themes--which, it obviously does--then it is about something.

What do you think about the arguments I quoted by Nim, Zuben, and myself?

Going back and unpacking the entire last half of the thread to explain why you're obtuse won't be any more effective in persuading you than saying nothing, so I'll choose the latter.
Jul 22, 2017 4:52 AM
Paquito
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Paquito

You and WHIC need to learn to be less salty when you get called on a bad argument. It's not a good look.

What the hell are you talking about? I made about 3 points in support of whic's argument--which I wouldn't fully endorse as stated but is a defensible take on the show--and you haven't said anything about them.

I never criticized WHIC's defense of what he thinks he show is "about". I pointed out that the show isn't really "about" anything, and that you could make an argument for any number of overarching themes. This should have been obvious when I pointed out we had this discussion last year.

If it can have any number of overarching themes--which, it obviously does--then it is about something.
Jul 22, 2017 4:34 AM
MosesGoddammit, Infinitus.

White County has the best waterfall in the state and it's one of my favorite hikes but I am still not responsible for it.
Jul 22, 2017 3:03 AM
Paquito
Esoteric Allusion
PaquitoAnyhow, it'd be more accurate to say you've been misinformed by your experience with the novel. It's a problem the show-runners themselves have struggled with. The most egregious case being the scene where they accidentally had Jaime rape Cersei. They wanted to depict a scene they enjoyed from the novel, but didn't stop to think about how the various changes they made in the show would affect how that scene would play to the show-only audience.

I think the scene was just directed poorly. Cersei's supposed to be a little hesitant to Jamie's advances but then passionately give in. You can film that without it becoming rape. I have just chosen to pretend that scene doesn't exist.

It could have easily been directed to not be a rape, yea. But it was also bizarre for them to be hooking up there in the first place. Some article I read pointed out that, in the books, Jamie had only just arrived at King's landing, finally reuniting with Cersei in the midst of her grief. That set up makes more sense.

Ironically, you're unable to analyze the scene in a show-only vacuum even though you haven't read the books.
Jul 22, 2017 3:00 AM
Paquito

You and WHIC need to learn to be less salty when you get called on a bad argument. It's not a good look.

What the hell are you talking about? I made about 3 points in support of whic's argument--which I wouldn't fully endorse as stated but is a defensible take on the show--and you haven't said anything about them.
Jul 22, 2017 2:59 AM
neumdaddy
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neumdaddyI'm sorta with Bigwig here on his original point of "third-tier news." Honestly, this messageboard is a good source for some of those stories for me. Twitter & general perusal of other websites help keep me abreast on more obvious stories.

Do you think you're going to come across more third-tier news stories by "following" EA here or by following a solid 15-20 EA's on Twitter?

I'm not saying I'm solely reliant on this thread for info; it just happens to be where I discover some third-tier stuff. Any recommendations for Twitter EA's to follow?

Whic's a good one.
Jul 21, 2017 11:26 PM
wirthlingOpposition to the concept of Confederate...

A. It's going to be racist wish fulfillment.
B. It will intend to make progressive commentary, but racists will see what they want to see in it and miss the point, like with All in the Family and even The Handmaid'sTale.
C. It will intend to make progressive commentary but will probably undercut that by putting white heroes in the forefront.
D. The last thing we need in these divisive times is a show featuring heightened divisiveness.
E. The premise is preposterous.

It's pretty impressive that a brief show announcement can engender all of that. We are a wound-up people.

(Yes, I'm going to wait until I see the show to make an actual assessment of it.)

Those are all terrible reasons except possibly E. I'm not surprised there was a kerfuffle but the vehemence of it, in a world where Man in the High Castle has been airing for a couple of years, is weird. People dumb.
Jul 21, 2017 11:22 PM
HoboJoeReports circulating that Kyrie asked to be traded away from Cleveland so he can be a focal point. LeBron is so out of there next summer.

Cleveland is a fucking joke. They lucked into one of the three greatest players ever and have totally fucked it up not once but twice.

Why now though? Why not wait a year?
Jul 21, 2017 11:18 PM
neumdaddyI'm sorta with Bigwig here on his original point of "third-tier news." Honestly, this messageboard is a good source for some of those stories for me. Twitter & general perusal of other websites help keep me abreast on more obvious stories.

Do you think you're going to come across more third-tier news stories by "following" EA here or by following a solid 15-20 EA's on Twitter?
Jul 21, 2017 11:15 PM
Bigwig
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Bigwig
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Bigwig
Esoteric AllusionThe amount of third tier stories that have come out in the past couple of days that normally would be destroy political career level scandals is simply overwhelming.

Well, post a couple. Apparently nobody but you has the will to keep up with all this shit.

Bigwig, are you getting all of your news from a message board that averages 30 posts a day?

No. But I haven't read a bunch of "third tier stories" in the last "couple of days." Have you?

I have a Twitter feed, so I'm aware of lots and lots of stories.

Are you really of the opinion that you need twitter to keep up with the news? I mean, that makes you look like a millenial dope or somebody even older than me who is completely unfamiliar with the internet.

I never said you need to have one, but that's how I get most of my news and it's very easy to get a broad feel for the events of the day through a well-curated feed. I also subscribe to the Washington Post but most of the stories I read I see on Twitter first anyway. I'm sure there's other ways to get the news, but you're characterizing my Twitter usage as making me a "millennial dope" or someone who doesn't get the internet is very weird. I would also remind you that, of the two of us, you're the one who asked EA (who's been asleep for 45 minutes, btw) what's going on in the world.
Jul 21, 2017 4:58 AM
whathaveicreatedIt takes fewer people to push a car.

Ha! Wirthling, get in here and look at what whic just said about you.
Jul 21, 2017 4:07 AM
whathaveicreatedBe real. I need your help cyber bullying wirthling.

Oh, come on. That's like pushing a car down a hill when it's in neutral--he does most of the work for you.
Jul 21, 2017 4:01 AM
whathaveicreated
Infinitus Corsair
Bigwig
Infinitus Corsair
Bigwig
Esoteric AllusionThe amount of third tier stories that have come out in the past couple of days that normally would be destroy political career level scandals is simply overwhelming.

Well, post a couple. Apparently nobody but you has the will to keep up with all this shit.

Bigwig, are you getting all of your news from a message board that averages 30 posts a day?

No. But I haven't read a bunch of "third tier stories" in the last "couple of days." Have you?

I have a Twitter feed, so I'm aware of lots and lots of stories.


What's your handle?

@BigWig
That's right, Bigwig. I'm squatting on your handle.
Jul 21, 2017 3:53 AM
Bigwig
Infinitus Corsair
Bigwig
Esoteric AllusionThe amount of third tier stories that have come out in the past couple of days that normally would be destroy political career level scandals is simply overwhelming.

Well, post a couple. Apparently nobody but you has the will to keep up with all this shit.

Bigwig, are you getting all of your news from a message board that averages 30 posts a day?

No. But I haven't read a bunch of "third tier stories" in the last "couple of days." Have you?

I have a Twitter feed, so I'm aware of lots and lots of stories.
Jul 21, 2017 3:51 AM
Bigwig
Esoteric AllusionThe amount of third tier stories that have come out in the past couple of days that normally would be destroy political career level scandals is simply overwhelming.

Well, post a couple. Apparently nobody but you has the will to keep up with all this shit.

Bigwig, are you getting all of your news from a message board that averages 30 posts a day?
Jul 21, 2017 3:46 AM
NimChimpskyI happen to think that slavery would have ended in fairly short order, even allowing succession. I'm still up for at least watching the pilot of a show no one has seen or knows anything about.

The U is nowhere near the E.
Jul 20, 2017 11:56 PM
Paquito
Infinitus Corsair
Esoteric Allusion
PaquitoI'll grant that GRRM screwed the show-runners by failing to deliver his books, as promised. They intentionally slowed down the pace of the show during seasons 4 and 5 to give Martin time to write, and I'm sure they were horrified when they realized he couldn't deliver. All of a sudden they have to write Season 6, and have to deal with an audience whose interest is starting to wane. So realistic timelines are sacrificed to achieve a pace that'll put them back on track.

But I still don't think that excuses Dorne, or Arya's Bravos storyline, or having Jaime rape Cersei, etc etc.

Season 5 felt extremely rushed. After A Storm of Swords, Martin's next two works, originally meant to be one book, had some pacing problems and expanded a bunch of story threads all at once. It even got worse inbetween Feast and Dance. Adapting this was always going to be hard and the show ended up condensing a lot in a way that felt rushed.

Martin famously writes ?as he goes along, so the story probably isn't even all that worked out yet. He mostly likely gave the show writers the major plot developments he has in mind without much connective tissue and let them figure it out. Because he's the best writer associated with the show, by far, everything suffers without having his best of to draw from. The TV show has always been at its best when it's able to edit Martin down to his strong-points and add flourishes that highlight them for the TV medium. It really screwed things up when he let the show outpace his material.

Martin had been writing an episode for the show every year, some really good ones, but he stopped that to try to pick up the pace on Winds of Winter. He probably spent that time trying to get his loving odes to soup just right.

On the other hand, "Hardhome" is the best episode of the show and they made up the whole thing.

That could be an outlier. I think it's harder for you to judge the show on its own merits; your memory of what you enjoyed from the books seems to pollute your perception of the show. At least, that's what your take on Arya's character development suggests.

It's true, it's hard to separate the two narratives and each experience informs the other for both me and hundreds of thousands of other literates. But we all bring preconceptions to something like a television show. Your own views are doubtless informed by your being a lunkheaded ass.
Jul 20, 2017 11:55 PM
Esoteric Allusion
PaquitoI'll grant that GRRM screwed the show-runners by failing to deliver his books, as promised. They intentionally slowed down the pace of the show during seasons 4 and 5 to give Martin time to write, and I'm sure they were horrified when they realized he couldn't deliver. All of a sudden they have to write Season 6, and have to deal with an audience whose interest is starting to wane. So realistic timelines are sacrificed to achieve a pace that'll put them back on track.

But I still don't think that excuses Dorne, or Arya's Bravos storyline, or having Jaime rape Cersei, etc etc.

Season 5 felt extremely rushed. After A Storm of Swords, Martin's next two works, originally meant to be one book, had some pacing problems and expanded a bunch of story threads all at once. It even got worse inbetween Feast and Dance. Adapting this was always going to be hard and the show ended up condensing a lot in a way that felt rushed.

Martin famously writes ?as he goes along, so the story probably isn't even all that worked out yet. He mostly likely gave the show writers the major plot developments he has in mind without much connective tissue and let them figure it out. Because he's the best writer associated with the show, by far, everything suffers without having his best of to draw from. The TV show has always been at its best when it's able to edit Martin down to his strong-points and add flourishes that highlight them for the TV medium. It really screwed things up when he let the show outpace his material.

Martin had been writing an episode for the show every year, some really good ones, but he stopped that to try to pick up the pace on Winds of Winter. He probably spent that time trying to get his loving odes to soup just right.

On the other hand, "Hardhome" is the best episode of the show and they made up the whole thing.
Jul 20, 2017 5:02 AM
The Spock/Data on the new Star Trek show can sense imminent death which is some pretty stupid magic shit for Star Trek.
Jul 20, 2017 12:15 AM