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HoboJoeFour years ago Boston's rotation was Rajon Rondo, Avery Bradley, Jeff Green, Brandon Bass, Jared Sullinger, Jerryd Bayless, Gerald Wallace, Kelly Olynyk, Kris Humphries, Chris Johnson, Courtney Lee, and Phil Pressy.

Today it's Kyrie Irving, Marcus Smart, Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown, Al Horford, Jayson Tatum, Marcus Morris, Aron Baynes, and Terry Rozier.

Who's going to rebound the ball?
Sep 2, 2017 12:09 AM
briggm
Paquito
briggmMcGregor landed one decent counter uppercut in that round, a punch he threw several more times during the fight but didn't land again. Why? Because Floyd wanted to draw punches like that out of Conor to see what traps he was trying to set and adapt to them.

That upper cut though. It was a clean shot to the chin that could have potentially ?knocked Mayweather out, and landing shots like that was what McGregor's corner was betting on. Granted, that's like planning to win a football game via Hail Marys, but if that was a K.O. punch, people would be talking about how Mayweather got too cocky, and how McGregor is a master strategist.

It didn't land as clean as it could have, bouncing slightly off Mayweather's chest before making contact with his chin. But it was one of a few nice things McGregor tried early, and he showed good timing on his counter punching (which we knew he had before the fight)

Conor was trying to set a few traps, as he did with that uppercut. He was also trying to hook off the switch of stance (he'd quickly pivot from southpaw to orthodox and throw a quick left hook on the change... when Conor tried this again in the 7th, Floyd immediately clocks him with a hook to the head) and a couple of times when Mayweather shot his right hand Conor immediately threw a straight left at the same time hoping to catch him unprepared. The problem was that Mayweather is the best in the sport at adjusting to what you're doing, so you really only get one chance, and Conor predictably didn't have enough facets to his game to keep Mayweather honest. Mayweather could just walk forward with impunity.

There was a good video by an MMA guy before the fight breaking down the adjustments Mayweather had to make in the Maidana fight to finally get him under control. Floyd has to make at least half a dozen defensive adjustments here:

https://youtu.be/nDGFFASW0lk

This is where you start to see why this was such an easy fight for Floyd. For instance when Conor tried to grapple with Floyd to impose his size on him, Floyd simply pressed his forearm against Conor's throat/face and it worked every time. Conor doesn't know how to get around that because he's obviously not a boxer.

Conor was never going to win, but I think he would have had a better chance if he and his team weren't so arrogant coming into the fight. I get that they've got you to where you are so you're not going to change now, but they had one of the best boxing minds in the sport in Paulie Malignaggi in their camp, and rather than draw on that they just used him for promotional purposes. Both Conor and his trainer said after the fight that they hadn't anticipated or prepared for Floyd walking forward and fighting the way he did, but Paulie absolutely could have told them that's what he was likely to do - I remember him suggesting it in interviews before the fight.

As a final thought, one thing that was glaring from a boxing perspective was Conor's inability to disguise his fatigue. One of the things boxers learn early in sparring is not to show that you're tired, because the other guy is going to put it on you. Conor's mouth was hanging open, his arms were down by his side, he was basically saying to Mayweather, "ok I'm done, do what you will".

Floyd was back on the ropes quite a bit, and simply turned around and bent over when he was overwhelmed. In any event, it shouldn't take 10 rounds and a bad stoppage for supposedly the best boxer ever to dispatch an amateur. Boxing is an easy sport, and Conor realized he made the right decision fighting in MMA.
Aug 29, 2017 12:51 AM
briggmEA! One of your retards has gained access to your computer again! FFS EA, you have a duty of care to these people.

I doubt EA can capably take care of himself.
Aug 28, 2017 12:14 PM
And before you say the underclass in America has it better now than they did up and to the Civil Rights movement, of course they did, but that doesn't mean they have it better now than they did 300, 500, or 2,000 years ago. The ancient African kingdoms, not even speaking of Carthage or Egypt, had immense freedom and wealth, certainly more so than the middle and lower classes of modern Americans who are being strangled by the Democratic Party. We've gone backwards.
Aug 28, 2017 7:00 AM
Bigwig
Xenophon
BigwigSquare jawed racist giving fight opinions. Come get em.

It would be nice if stupid white liberals like you didn't destroy the definition of racism any further. Words used to have meanings. Kind of like how you used to have hair

You're a racist. Also, double lols

Yes, cheapen it more. The label might have some effect, however, if you didn't sling it around like a yo-yo. Of course, thanks to people like you, everyone is a racist now, even those trying not to be. Now, you're either with the old, fair skinned bourgeoisie, or with the underprivileged, darker skinned class. You may think only one is racist, but the effect is both are racist to eachother. The less wealthy class holds they cannot be racist by nature of their place below the upper class. In thousands of years of race, religion and civilization, we've gone absolutely nowhere on the point of racial equality (in idea and point, not in real world goods and rights). The ancient Mongol empire sponsored the religions of Shamanism, Tengriism, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Taoism, Manicheanism. This was almost a thousand years ago. And there is probably more racial hysteria, division, and hatred in modern times, despite lessons supposedly learned. We have Obama, Hillary and Donald Trump as the representations of our advancement. They're talking heads who sling crap like you. It's mostly your fault.
Aug 28, 2017 6:44 AM
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This stoppage is absolutely mad. Most of these "punches" are catching nothing but air. The more I see it, the more I realize Conor threw the end of the fight, as part of the terms for Floyd accepting the fight initially.
Aug 28, 2017 3:17 AM
BigwigSquare jawed racist giving fight opinions. Come get em.

It would be nice if stupid white liberals like you didn't destroy the definition of racism any further. Words used to have meanings. Kind of like how you used to have hair.
Aug 28, 2017 2:54 AM
Give Conor a mere few months of conditioning and training, tell him save everything for the end like Floyd, and he absolutely destroys Mayweather in the rematch. No way Floyd's embarrassing himself again in front of that many people, though.
Aug 28, 2017 2:50 AM
briggmIf Conor does ever box again it'll almost certainly be against Paulie Malignaggi, but with so many Xenophons out there who don't get that Floyd carried him in this fight, it'd be great for them to see what'd happen to Conor against a serious puncher like Canelo or GGG.

Well, GGG would absolutely destroy Mayweather. That win would have to be the most fixed result of Mayweather's career. The fight would never happen, people would realize what a crock Mayweather's results are.
Aug 28, 2017 2:40 AM
briggmIf Conor does ever box again it'll almost certainly be against Paulie Malignaggi, but with so many Xenophons out there who don't get that Floyd carried him in this fight, it'd be great for them to see what'd happen to Conor against a serious puncher like Canelo or GGG.

Conor is a much better fighter, athlete, crowd pleaser, personality, and money making force than Mayweather. If anything, McGregor carried Mayweather. Mayweather doesn't even have the punching power to defeat a brand new boxer in the opening rounds, so he runs from his opponent for the first hour of the fight.
Aug 28, 2017 2:35 AM
Bigwig
Paquito
briggmMcGregor landed one decent counter uppercut in that round, a punch he threw several more times during the fight but didn't land again. Why? Because Floyd wanted to draw punches like that out of Conor to see what traps he was trying to set and adapt to them.

That upper cut though. It was a clean shot to the chin that potentially could have knocked Mayweather out, and landing shots like that was what McGregor's corner was betting on. Granted, that's like planning to win a football game via Hail Marys, but if that was a K.O. punch, people would be talking about how Mayweather got too cocky, and how McGregor is a master strategist.

He doesn't have enough power.

Mayweather has no power. That's why boxing is dead.
Aug 28, 2017 2:30 AM
JeanI'd like to get Xenophon's opinion on these stats:

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.[/font]

Jabs landed: 18 of 59 (31%)

Power punches landed: 152 of 261 (58%)

Total punches landed: 170 of 320 (53%)

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]CONOR MCGREGOR[/font]

Jabs landed: 27 of 98 (28%)

Power punches landed: 84 of 332 (25%)

Total punches landed: 111 of 430 (26%)

The numbers seem to be truthful after just having watched the fight, although I still don't think that means Mayweather came off any better, in the match or in the end of all things. They show Conor landed more jabs, which is true at least. Conor used his reach well and kept Floyd at a nice distance with his jab. Conor maneuvered his gloves right between Floyd's defense numerous times. That was my biggest surprise and Conor's best effort. The numbers show Conor threw a lot more punches, which is obvious from watching the fight. Perhaps he wasn't credited for landing many of them. Floyd gets credited for landing a lot of power punches that aren't very powerful nor do they land very well. They're not going to knock anyone out. But, they're his version of power punches.
Aug 27, 2017 7:46 PM
I know it's hard to believe the best boxer ever got beat by a loud Irish guy in his first boxing match, but it happened.
Aug 27, 2017 9:05 AM
Reason #256 why boxing is dead: The referee comes in and breaks the fighters apart when one turns around and bends over to avoid the flurry of punches from the other boxer.
Aug 27, 2017 8:55 AM
That stoppage when watched in real time is extra bad. Literally none of those punches Mayweather throws there land cleanly. All glancing.

Of course, Mayweather doesn't really land clean punches. No power. Just elbows, low blows and secret stuff.
Aug 27, 2017 8:48 AM
Makes you wonder what would have happened if Connor didn't dominate the first half of the fight, and played a boring, Floyd-esque strategy and saved his energy. Oh well, now he's not tired from beating Floyd's head in for the first half of the fight! Now Floyd has to continue to run instead of going on the offensive. Now Floyd goes to decision just like the rest of his career because he's a weakling and a sport killer.
Aug 27, 2017 8:21 AM
I guess the Aussie comment got him churning.
Aug 27, 2017 8:18 AM
briggmI mean, Floyd, perhaps the most risk adverse elite level boxer in history, walked McGregor down and stood directly in front of him for basically the entire fight. What does that tell you about how much he respected what Conor was doing?

It's even more of an indictment on boxing and supposedly "elite" boxers, considering half of the fight belonged to McGregor.
Aug 27, 2017 8:10 AM
briggm
XenophonMcGregor dominated for at least half of the fight, even more damning considering it was his first match against supposedly the best fighter ever.

He didn't dominate. He won early rounds because Floyd didn't engage - he took time getting used to the different angles and let McGregor tire, knowing that it's a 12 round fight and that he would stop him later.
This is exactly what I said would happen before the fight. You don't know shit about boxing.

It doesn't matter what line you follow, McGregor's showing was more impressive. Not only for now, but for the future. If conditioning was Mayweather's only way to victory, it makes a more experienced and prepared McGregor an even more superior fighter in the rematch, especially considering that bout would never be stopped as badly as this one.

In any event, letting a guy tire who's never boxed before so you can slap him around the face a bit with an open hand and get a premature buddy stoppage is a pretty bad way to go for supposedly the best boxer ever. Makes you not wonder why boxing is dead.
Aug 27, 2017 8:09 AM
briggm
Xenophon
Esoteric Allusion
XenophonThat kind of stoppage is actually why boxing is dead and has been overtaken by MMA.

His head was being put on a swivel and he had no capacity to defend himself. Mayweather was getting free shots at his chin. His hands probably were lead at that point. There's no point in accelerating his dementia clock just to watch him inevitably go down. He was done.

Yeah, poor McGregor. We should protect him after all he's such a nice guy and a friend of Mayweather's. If his head was on a swivel then Mayweather should have been able to put him down easy, right? Free shots at his chin, but can't get a knockout? Sounds like Mayweather needs to be protected. Sounds like Mayweather also needs some punching power.

I get that you're a literal retard, but fuck me you're dumb even by spastic standards.

Aren't you Australian?
Aug 27, 2017 7:43 AM