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DetrimentalWe could like chat if you want

Only if you want to though, don't want to presume anything.
Nov 21, 2017 4:50 AM
ej
MeowI think the lesson here is that everyone-- every person on the planet-- is terrible.

Everybody's got something to hide. Except for me and mrmonkey.

I'm kind of pissed BigFlax isn't here to read this.
Nov 20, 2017 11:51 PM
We could like chat if you want
Nov 18, 2017 2:46 AM
Lollerpops
ZubenWind River : 70%

A much younger, like teenage, me would probably have thought this was a cool movie. Actually, it's pretty dumb, particularly the actions/motivations of the bad guys.

It's terrible. And why would you give 70% to a "dumb" movie?

The script was dumb, but everything else was pretty top notch. So to give it a 70 isn't a big deal.
Nov 17, 2017 8:42 PM
ZubenWind River : 70%

A much younger, like teenage, me would probably have thought this was a cool movie. Actually, it's pretty dumb, particularly the actions/motivations of the bad guys.

This is what I would give it too. I thought it was a pretty good movie until the last act where everything kind of fell apart. I will say the acting was very good, particularly Jeremy Renner.
Nov 17, 2017 3:44 PM
CaesarTheBootySqueezer
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Zuben
DetrimentalNoscript doesn't work with it yet though. So it's like having sex without a condom when you're using the new FF.

What's sex without a condom like Det?

I don't know why I need to know what it's like for me to make that analogy.

It might help your analogy make sense, though.
Having sex without a condom can be much more pleasurable...is that the point you're trying to make

Condoms prevent viruses whilst doing something pleasurable, similar to noscript. This isn't rocket science.

Is Chlamydia a virus? How about gonorrhea or syphilis?

Maybe those aren't, but I hear that HIV is a fucking virus. And that's just semantics anyways they're infections. Just admit the analogy flew over your head.

I WILL admit that I'm just fuckin' with you because I think your posts are stupid. ?

Uh huh, that's what we're going with right? Not with the stupid person with boring rambling posts on a message board can't figure out a metaphor. But with - "i was just trolling bro!"
Nov 17, 2017 4:29 AM
theVictorianI'm surprised that Franken's sexuality hasn't really featured in the discussion. It's not an excuse but certainly mitigates the intent aspect.

Al Franken is gay? I think you're thinking of Barney Frank.
Nov 17, 2017 1:38 AM
Do you guys know that jean rawdogs it with like most of the women he bones? So don't judge him by his short story, judge him by that.
Nov 17, 2017 12:27 AM
I just realized that post was offensive towards all the people who had to suck HBJ's dick and I apologize.
Nov 16, 2017 11:52 PM
If the Celtics beat the Warriors tonight, EA is going to have to suck HoboJoes dick isn't he?
Nov 16, 2017 11:40 PM
CaesarTheBootySqueezer
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Zuben
DetrimentalNoscript doesn't work with it yet though. So it's like having sex without a condom when you're using the new FF.

What's sex without a condom like Det?

I don't know why I need to know what it's like for me to make that analogy.

It might help your analogy make sense, though.
Having sex without a condom can be much more pleasurable...is that the point you're trying to make

Condoms prevent viruses whilst doing something pleasurable, similar to noscript. This isn't rocket science.

Is Chlamydia a virus? How about gonorrhea or syphilis?

Maybe those aren't, but I hear that HIV is a fucking virus. And that's just semantics anyways they're infections. Just admit the analogy flew over your head.
Nov 16, 2017 11:31 PM
CaesarTheBootySqueezer
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Zuben
DetrimentalNoscript doesn't work with it yet though. So it's like having sex without a condom when you're using the new FF.

What's sex without a condom like Det?

I don't know why I need to know what it's like for me to make that analogy.

It might help your analogy make sense, though.
Having sex without a condom can be much more pleasurable...is that the point you're trying to make

Condoms prevent viruses whilst doing something pleasurable, similar to noscript. This isn't rocket science.
Nov 16, 2017 11:14 PM
Zuben
DetrimentalNoscript doesn't work with it yet though. So it's like having sex without a condom when you're using the new FF.

What's sex without a condom like Det?

I don't know why I need to know what it's like for me to make that analogy.
Nov 16, 2017 10:49 PM
Noscript doesn't work with it yet though. So it's like having sex without a condom when you're using the new FF.
Nov 16, 2017 8:28 PM
Infinitus Corsair
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Janson Jinnistan
DetrimentalI really don't think you know how to read. I said "pursuing it" is a bad thing, not diversity itself.

Well let's not pursue it and see how much of this good diversity you end up with.

Why do you think women and minorities aren't up to the task of getting jobs without companies going out of their way to hire them?

Literally because of attitudes you're espousing in this thread.

If you look good on paper and did well in the interview a person is going to want to hire you. Sure you will have a harder time if you're a minority. But after awhile you'll get enough of said minorities in businesses and then they can hire people with a more objective eye (or maybe even more biased eye towards their own).?

Yes, generations of disadvantaged groups--just wait several generations for a few brave (and statistically lucky) representatives to gradually break down thousands of years of deeply-ingrained racism and sexism. Sure, you will miss out on opportunities that privileged groups take for granted and thus--collectively--enjoy a lower quality of life. But just knowing that your descendants will thrive will doubtless warm your heart.

The reason minority groups have a lower quality of life have more to do with governmental reasons like The War on Drugs and etc than the fact that companies aren't making a mission to hire them.

You've got the cart before the horse. Those governmental policies--like hiring practices that are driven by unexamined privilege and prejudice--are manifestations of the deeply-embedded prejudices that are the root cause of group-based disadvantage.

Sure but those two things are very diffferent. One a person is forced to follow and the other is up to a person's whims. If you take away the laws that are motivated by prejudice you make it so that certain minorities can thrive. If you leave those same policies intact, whether or not you forcible change those hiring practices or not you're still going to have a lot of the same problems.
One thing you can do to help minorities as a business is to fire people who are hiring non-minorities that are not as qualified over more qualified minorities I guess. But that's just good business you don't want someone hiring under qualified people no matter the reason. It hurts business.
Nov 15, 2017 5:18 AM
Infinitus Corsair
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Janson Jinnistan
DetrimentalI really don't think you know how to read. I said "pursuing it" is a bad thing, not diversity itself.

Well let's not pursue it and see how much of this good diversity you end up with.

Why do you think women and minorities aren't up to the task of getting jobs without companies going out of their way to hire them?

Literally because of attitudes you're espousing in this thread.

If you look good on paper and did well in the interview a person is going to want to hire you. Sure you will have a harder time if you're a minority. But after awhile you'll get enough of said minorities in businesses and then they can hire people with a more objective eye (or maybe even more biased eye towards their own).?

Yes, generations of disadvantaged groups--just wait several generations for a few brave (and statistically lucky) representatives to gradually break down thousands of years of deeply-ingrained racism and sexism. Sure, you will miss out on opportunities that privileged groups take for granted and thus--collectively--enjoy a lower quality of life. But just knowing that your descendants will thrive will doubtless warm your heart.

The reason minority groups have a lower quality of life have more to do with governmental reasons like The War on Drugs and etc than the fact that companies aren't making a mission to hire them.
Nov 15, 2017 5:02 AM
Infinitus Corsair
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Janson Jinnistan
DetrimentalI really don't think you know how to read. I said "pursuing it" is a bad thing, not diversity itself.

Well let's not pursue it and see how much of this good diversity you end up with.

Why do you think women and minorities aren't up to the task of getting jobs without companies going out of their way to hire them?

Literally because of attitudes you're espousing in this thread.

If you look good on paper and did well in the interview a person is going to want to hire you. Sure you will have a harder time if you're a minority. But after awhile you'll get enough of said minorities in businesses and then they can hire people with a more objective eye (or maybe even more biased eye towards their own). Trying to jumpstart the process by having diversity quotas only introduces problems.
Nov 15, 2017 4:40 AM
Janson Jinnistan
DetrimentalI really don't think you know how to read. I said "pursuing it" is a bad thing, not diversity itself.

Well let's not pursue it and see how much of this good diversity you end up with.

Why do you think women and minorities aren't up to the task of getting jobs without companies going out of their way to hire them?
Nov 15, 2017 4:33 AM
Janson Jinnistan
DetrimentalNo one said that. I'm not even saying that having a diverse workplace is a bad thing. Just actively pursuing it, probably does more harm that good.

"More harm than good" kinda sounds like a bad thing.

I really don't think you know how to read. I said "pursuing it" is a bad thing, not diversity itself.
Nov 15, 2017 4:18 AM
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Janson Jinnistan
DetrimentalI don't think being diverse is something that should be high priority for a company that wants to make money.

I hear that slavery was quite profitable.

A company not caring about being diverse is akin to slavery? You might want to scale back the hyperbole there.

The hyperbole is to emphasize the point--at some point morals trump profits.

Diversity in the workplace isn't some moral imperative. It's more of a nicety than anything.

Lack of diversity is a manifestation of humanity's ingrained penchant for division and tribalism, of which slavery is just the worst manifestation. They are of a kind and a failure to treat diversity and inclusion as a moral imperative--indeed, to view it merely as a "nicety"--is the sort of thing that makes more obviously destructive divisions viable.

Maybe it's important in a place like a school where kids have to learn to get along and shit. But in the workplace where the main objective is getting shit done wasting time and money on promoting diversity is more of a hindrance than anything. I don't think we're going to fix division and tribalism from some bureaucratic attempts to get us to get along, it'll probably just make things worse.

So much to unpack.
(a) What makes you think getting along with other people is any less imperative in a workplace than a school?
(b) Why is it a hindrance? What does it hinder?
(c) I don't think bigotry and prejudice are going to be "fixed" on any meaningful time horizon but it is a moral imperative to confront them and redress their degrading effects on human beings. And one of the most elemental aspects of confronting prejudice is to actively work against our tendency to homogenize our gathering places (including businesses) and continuing to favor groups whose preeminence is built on advantages accruing to them by past prejudicial actions. Doing anything else only reinforces and ossifies those prejudices.

a) The point of a school is to teach kids stuff, so it might be good to teach them how to get along with a diverse number of people
b) It's an hindrance because you might start getting a number of minorities who have no business being in said workplace because they were chosen over a more qualified person based on their minority status.
c) A business is a place where you work to get things done. A business is trying to compete with numerous other businesses to make money. To sit there and wonder how I can end racism with my diversity quotas or w/e isn't conducive to competing with other businesses. You will probably lose money on handicapping yourself that way.
Nov 15, 2017 4:15 AM