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Paris the Goat
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Paris the Goat
HurricaneKid
Paris the GoatPatrick Beverley seems a little...intense.


He seemed to take joy in baptizing the young fella last night.

I don't know that I see it with Ball. Maybe in a more wide open game like with the Nets or Suns. But if LBJ and PG are going to go there next year he may very well not be there.

I wonder if Ball will just have problems with opposing point guards who, you know, actually play defense. I know recency bias is a thing, but his last college game involved him getting absolutely clowned by De'Aaron Fox.

He looks like he could be one of the best faciliators in the league. I bet he is the total package on that front. His passing is accurate. He understands pace very well. He knows where to get the ball to create a good offensive set. He seems really advanced on that front for his age. But if he can't even be average as a defender, shooter, or slasher, that probably isn't enough. You're probably a liability if you have Stockton like facilitating ability, but are bench level as a scorer and defender.

"Ricky Rubio minus the defense" isn't actually that good a player.

I think he'll probably be even better than Rubio on that front. And it's hard to see him being as bad of a shooter. Otherwise, yeah. That's not enough.
Oct 21, 2017 2:10 AM
Paris the Goat
HurricaneKid
Paris the GoatPatrick Beverley seems a little...intense.


He seemed to take joy in baptizing the young fella last night.

I don't know that I see it with Ball. Maybe in a more wide open game like with the Nets or Suns. But if LBJ and PG are going to go there next year he may very well not be there.

I wonder if Ball will just have problems with opposing point guards who, you know, actually play defense. I know recency bias is a thing, but his last college game involved him getting absolutely clowned by De'Aaron Fox.

He looks like he could be one of the best faciliators in the league. I bet he is the total package on that front. His passing is accurate. He understands pace very well. He knows where to get the ball to create a good offensive set. He seems really advanced on that front for his age. But if he can't even be average as a defender, shooter, or slasher, that probably isn't enough. You're probably a liability if you have Stockton like facilitating ability, but are bench level as a scorer and defender.
Oct 21, 2017 1:39 AM
1) Kidd is the worst x's and o's guy in the league and should be fired.

2) The Bucks badly need non-injured Parker's natural scoring talent.

3) Giannis is a MVP caliber player now.
Oct 21, 2017 1:30 AM
It's now surfaced that Moore evaded taxes on the money he got from fleecing his charity.

This is getting spectacular. It's just a testament to what his voters will tolerate. I hope a video surfaces of him fucking a poodle.
Oct 20, 2017 7:55 PM
NimChimpskyThe old Polish woman bit was brilliant because it was s funny anecdote that was also a brilliant metaphor for grief. I thought that section was very well crafted. In lesser hands it could have all been really exploitative or mawkish. It was reminiscent of Tig Nataros post-cancer special.

The polish woman bit was the best part of that whole section, and I got it, but it didn't tickle my funny bone enough to make it to "brilliant." It's a matter of taste, of course. I do think wanting him to succeed while bravely talking about something so tragic is doing the work for some people. I felt that reaction in the audience. I'm not saying that's you, because I don't know. It was good, but I just didn't see it as transcendentally great.
Oct 20, 2017 1:58 AM
I know General Kelley gets portrayed as a sober voice boxing in an erratic Trump. Kelly is comparatively buttoned up because Trump is batshit insane, but he's a bit of a nutbar himself. Remember when he allegedly claimed that Mexico was on the cusp of Venezuela-like collapse?

Then just the other day it came out that Kelly was personally directing DHS to propagandize immigrant raids by portraying them as clearing out hardened criminals. Now you have today with his comments looking rather iffy. He definitely has a mainstream media positioning as a serious man which is difficult to shake (see: Ryan, Paul) and totally undeserved as best I can tell.
Oct 20, 2017 1:53 AM
NimChimpsky
wirthling
NimChimpskyThe new Patton Oswalt special on Netflix is just amazing.

I watched it last night. I thought some of the material was B-grade (the joke about "pure-race" people was off-putting; the movie-pitch bit at the end was too long and obvious) but all of the stuff about his wife and daughter was heart-wrenching and beautiful and insightful. I cried.

The pure-race thing was terrible, but I forgive the movie pitch bit because of the context he afforded it afterwards.

I loved the David Lee Roth analogy. And the wife stuff is obviously what made this sublime.

I thought the early Trump material was mediocre, but the David Lee Roth bit was great. The crowd work was really funny. I thought the material on his wife's death was good, but not amazing or anything. I think what's doing the work there for people is the context of him being so clearly heartbroken while doing standup comedy about it.
Oct 19, 2017 11:49 PM
Ivan the Terrible

A few thoughts:

1) I would be curious to see further questions asked of American Muslims who support gay rights. How many who identify as Muslim and express acceptance for homosexuality are deeply religious, as opposed to cultural Muslims who pay lip service but don't care much about practicing their faith? If they are devout, how do they justify holding the two beliefs at once?

My expectation would be that as religiosity goes up, LGBT acceptance goes down. I would be happy to find out I'm wrong, though, and large numbers of devout American Muslims are finding a way to reconcile their faith with liberal views on gay rights.

2) Following that thought, I wonder to what extent the growing acceptance of LGBT issues among American Muslims is a function of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"? Obviously both gays and Muslims are favorite targets of the Christian Right, so it makes sense there would be more empathy for people who are perceived as fellow scapegoats of the same powerful group.

2) I'm not sure comparing Muslims, as a very broad category, with evangelicals, a more specifically conservative subform of Christianity, is fair. If someone specifically identifies as an evangelical rather than simply a Protestant, I would expect religion to be a much larger part of their identity. Wouldn't it be more fair to compare self-identified evangelicals with...say, self-identified Salafis?

Muslim acceptance of gay rights in America is statistically identical to Christian acceptance. The reason for breaking down into the evangelical subcategory is that if we are worried about a religious group because of its hostility to gays, there are more significant groups to be looking at. There are a number of reasons why this might be. American Muslims might immigrate to the United States specifically to get away from more conservative Muslims. What's significant for purposes of this discussion is understanding that one's cultural attitudes can drive religious views rather than the other way around.

The Bible is hostile to gays and extremely pro-slavery and the Christians who creatively interpret it otherwise are straining to align their secular ethical views with their religious ones. On the one hand, yeah, that's internally dubious. On the other, knowing that people do that does tell us something about the capacity for liberalization within a religious subculture.
Oct 19, 2017 11:44 PM
Remember Sitting Bulls is the guy who wants to delay rescue boats from rescuing refugees from drowning in the Mediterranean. Letting them die is protecting "civilization." But we need to worry about those barbaric Muslims.
Oct 19, 2017 11:36 PM
boozeI haven't read this thread and am not well versed enough in Wisconsin politics for my opinion to matter, but Mother Jones' spanking new issue goes into how voter suppression in Wisconsin not only gave the state to him but possibly won the election for Trump.

I haven't read that article, but I know from the analyses out there that it is extremely likely the various voter supression policies under Walker swung the state to Trump. His victory margin is within a reasonable lower bound of lost Dem votes due to that. What's crazy is the upper bound is enough to have cost Feingold a Senate seat too. 100k+ net lost Dem votes is absolutely plausible. We will never know about that for sure, though.

I don't know if this applies nationally.
Oct 19, 2017 7:17 PM
Paris the Goat
PaulsonWow, I had no idea Markelle Fultz's free throws looked like that.

I'm tempted to write him off based on that alone, holy shit it's awful.

I knew he had a terrible college FT% which is predictive of future shooting ability in the NBA more so than college 3 point % is. I'm not sure if his form being terrible is a positive or negative sign in that context.
Oct 19, 2017 5:53 PM
Ivan the Terrible
Esoteric AllusionThe New Testament blatantly endorses divine right of kings. Yet here we are. I think you have to approach people's religious beliefs for what they are even if they are internally dubious.

Factors outside of religious belief play a role in people's views and may shape how they view their faith. However, simply because those obstacles have been overcome in the past doesn't make them any less obstacles that had to be overcome.

In the case of LGBT rights, while it would be an enormous mistake to treat Islam as the only factor, as Sitting Bull seems to, it would also be a mistake to pretend it's a neutral factor. Where you find a Muslim majority, you are also more likely to find anti-LGBT views, and find people justifying those views by their faith. There are liberal Muslims who have found a way to reconcile a pro-LGBT stance with Islam, and more power to them, but I don't have a lot of optimism they'll ever be more than a fringe.

Unless the numbers have changed very recently, Muslims have more LBGT friendly views than evangelicals do in the US on average. It isn't even close. They are more in line with liberal Prosteants on the spread of views within their religious category.

This does not match views of Muslims around the globe, but it is a clear indication how those views can be malleable within a religious context. I agree that the religion isn't neutral, but I would also caution against overlooking how much secular culture drives religious interpretation.
Oct 19, 2017 4:13 PM
These knock off Halloween costume names are fantastic:
Oct 19, 2017 3:31 PM
The New Testament blatantly endorses divine right of kings. Yet here we are. I think you have to approach people's religious beliefs for what they are even if they are internally dubious.
Oct 19, 2017 2:35 PM
I feel like Brad Stevens is a good enough coach that he should be able to tell Marcus Smart to stop shooting.
Oct 19, 2017 3:05 AM
neumdaddy

See, and my anecdote is the opposite. I tore my ACL in college playing hoops, and while rehab was indeed long after the surgery, I don't even think about my knee being in danger anymore (I still play indoor soccer weekly).

I wonder if it partly has to do with how the injury occurred? Mine was kinda fluky (some dude literally planted his foot on the outside of my knee as I chased down a loose ball). I guess I don't even know how to find myself in that situation to have instinctive self-preservation kick in or something.

I'm a terrible basketball player. But I've always been quick. I caught the ball in motion a little above the top of the key and turned the corner past my defender. I saw the lane open and sprinted in for a layup. A person came in late after I scored and undercut me while I was in the air. I landed awkwardly and my ankle folded underneath the hoop. I immediately thought it was badly broken. Because I'm bad at basketball, the effect was going from cloud 9 to pure hell in an instant. It turns out that I didn't break my ankle. I tore every ligament in my ankle area and had a slight break in the foot. My ankle never 100% recovered as it's a bit looser than it was before.

After that, if I want do a sharp turn low to the ground and sprint there's a little hitch in my acceleration. Everything else is fine, but that exact motion seems to have been permanently affected.

Oct 19, 2017 3:00 AM
PaulsonGiannis is simply unstoppable. I don't know if this is his MVP season but it's coming.

What's encouraging is that wasn't even a peak-Giannis game.

The dunk on Baynes was sick.
Oct 19, 2017 2:48 AM
Paulson
Esoteric AllusionThon Maker looks a lot bulkier and more fit already. His body looks transformed. The Bucks might run a defense that thinks giving up open corner 3's is fine, but their training staff are miracle workers.

I don't know how much credit training staffs should be able to take for what is an obvious PED epidemic.

I'm sure the NBA has a PED problem, but I have no sense of how widespread it is. It isn't the NFL where you see blatant PED cases.

What the Bucks do with physical development and injury recovery at least is within the plausible range and timeline of athletes in a elite training program. It's also more subtle than players getting hulked up. I think the staff's vaunted reputation might be earned. I fully accept that Giannis and Co might be juicing, but I don't think we can say that's obviously it.
Oct 18, 2017 6:29 PM