How banning works. New and improved!

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There?s been a lot of confusion over the banning rules around here recently, and with good reason. Our standard system of warning and banning works, but is also a bit arbitrary and confusing, especially when attempting to distinguish between temporary bans, permanent bans, alias bans, and so on.

So, all the moderators have worked together on creating a more standardized ?system?, which should, at the very least, clear of most of the confusion. If you haven?t yet, please read RT-Matt?s list of bannable actions at the top of the forum first so that you know what to generally avoid doing. Moderator subjectivity unfortunately will always come into play - we generally try to follow the template below, but different circumstances require different actions, and the bottom line is that we have the last word. We will usually err on the side of leniency at first, and will take action after either repeated relatively small irritations (usually from post reports) or one big one like (but not limited to) posting huge images from your favorite porn site. This is a blanket rule - users will receive warnings and/or bannings without discrimination, regardless of their integration in the community.

Okay, here?s how banning will generally work from now on.[indent] 1)The poster will receive a warning. All the moderators will be notified that this poster was warned and what they were warned for. This will essentially stick them on probation. It generally takes quite a bit to receive a warning, but it?s easy to get banned if you screw up after receiving one. There may be a little leeway if the infractions are different, but don't count on it.

2)If the poster continues breaking rules, they will receive a temporary ban of their username. The standard temporary ban will last two weeks, but one month or longer bans may also occur at the discretion of the moderator. Note that sometimes a temporary ban may occur without a warning if a poster is repeatedly trolling. Think of it as a time out.

3)If you receive a temporary ban, your best bet is to sit it out and wait the two weeks if you?re worried about a permanent ban. Aliases calling attention to the banned username are not allowed. An alias can be created to question a moderator if necessary, but don?t let us catch you posting.

4)If a poster screws up again under an alias during their ban period, there will be a permanent ban of their alias, their original username, and any other aliases we discover, and the poster most likely won?t get another warning first. You lose your RT identity.

5)Any repeated problems from here may result in IP bans at moderator discretion.
[/indent]There are a few exceptions to these rules. Spammers are always permanently banned instantly without warning, as are posters or aliases that are created to intentionally disrupt the board (if virtually all of your posting history is trolling, that will probably result in a permanent ban).

Posting PMs can get you a warning or an instant temporary or permanent ban, depending on our discretion. Naturally, if the other poster in question is okay with the posting of the PMs (or they're obvious inoffensive jokes) we won't take any action, but if it's done with the intent to troll, harass, or "call someone out," don't be surprised if your account gets locked. As a general rule, private messages should remain private. Posting fake PMs with the intention of trolling or making other posters lives miserable won't be tolerated either.

In certain cases a moderator may state that a poster is not to create or use any aliases at all during their ban period - this will be stated publicly and bumped to the top of the forum and will imply that we are actively searching for aliases. Any aliases discovered will result in a permanent ban.

As this is a movie website first and foremost, posting spoilers without the spoiler tags will often result in an instant ban as well at the discretion of the moderator (we realize mistakes can be made from time to time, and we won?t fault you on them but you may still receive a warning). If the original post of a thread discusses spoilers, or if a thread is about spoilers, then specifying that in the thread title is okay and spoiler tags won?t be necessary in that thread. Intentional spoiler posts will always result in an instant ban.

In general, the rules above apply to repeated light infractions. Blatant idiocy that defies common sense will often get you instantly banned without a warning.

I hope this clears some things up. Post any questions or comments you have here, or discuss this stuff via PM with me, Alex Weitzman, King Elessar 8, or Rose.
Aug 22, 2007 12:41 PM
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I posted first. I hope that's not ban worthy.
Aug 22, 2007 12:51 PM
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chunkyloverI posted first. I hope that's not ban worthy.
You obviously didn't read closely enough.

/banned
Aug 22, 2007 12:53 PM
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Third.
Aug 22, 2007 12:54 PM
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I should mention that these rules don't completely apply retroactively, so in this case Angelo can keep posting as his alias (I'm not so much of a jackass to say he can have aliases and then ban them now that I made these rules) until his ban period is up.
Aug 22, 2007 1:07 PM
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So Angelo will be back in less than two weeks?

I can't believe I took my penis out and waggled it in protest over this.
Aug 22, 2007 1:16 PM
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Nice bone. The wolves should be satisfied for a while.
Aug 22, 2007 1:19 PM
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I mean I was going to do it eventually but still.
Aug 22, 2007 1:22 PM
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Black HoleNice bone. The wolves should be satisfied for a while.

I wouldn't bank on that. The bone of contention for several of the wolves is the moderator-discretion part.
Aug 22, 2007 1:22 PM
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Yay! Let's talk about teh banxxors some morz!!!1111
Aug 22, 2007 1:41 PM
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wirthlingI wouldn't bank on that. The bone of contention for several of the wolves is the moderator-discretion part.
That's why we start with a warning and a temporary ban now - the warning means to stop doing what you're freaking doing. You're not gonna get rid of the moderator discretion aspect, unless you want a computer that will autoban you for saying the word "fuck". There's four of us, and we validate all warnings and bannings now, so that's the best you're gonna get.
Aug 22, 2007 1:42 PM
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Thank you
Aug 22, 2007 1:51 PM
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kenporulesThat's why we start with a warning and a temporary ban now - the warning means to stop doing what you're freaking doing. You're not gonna get rid of the moderator discretion aspect, unless you want a computer that will autoban you for saying the word "fuck". There's four of us, and we validate all warnings and bannings now, so that's the best you're gonna get.

Yeah, I know. I wonder if it would be a good idea to state explicitly somewhere that moderator discretion will play into whether one gets a warning, even for infractions not specifically spelled out anywhere else. I mean things like posting a user's actual home address. It's not specifically mentioned as a bannable offense but I would think any mod would deem it bannable and for good reason. It might also help to address the locking of threads and editing of posts.

Or not.
Aug 22, 2007 1:53 PM
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So there's nothing more to see here? Okay. I'll carry on then.
Aug 22, 2007 1:57 PM
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Aug 22, 2007 2:02 PM
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wirthlingYeah, I know. I wonder if it would be a good idea to state explicitly somewhere that moderator discretion will play into whether one gets a warning, even for infractions not specifically spelled out anywhere else. I mean things like posting a user's actual home address. It's not specifically mentioned as a bannable offense but I would think any mod would deem it bannable and for good reason. It might also help to address the locking of threads and editing of posts.

Or not.
We're gonna keep doing that stuff the same way we always did. You're correct. We do take some common sense on the behalf of you guys into account here, amazingly enough.
Aug 22, 2007 2:04 PM
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kenporulesWe're gonna keep doing that stuff the same way we always did. You're correct. We do take some common sense on the behalf of you guys into account here, amazingly enough.

I'm just saying I think you'll get fewer brickbats tossed your way if it said that somewhere officially. Some people Cuepee need things like that spelled out.
Aug 22, 2007 2:10 PM
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wirthlingI'm just saying I think you'll get fewer brickbats tossed your way if it said that somewhere officially. Some people Cuepee need things like that spelled out.
There's gonna be brickbats. There will always be brickbats.

This is the official thread. Don't post someone's address, ok guys?
Aug 22, 2007 2:16 PM
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This place is turning into Gamespot, jesus christ.
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TiggsThank you
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