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Shorts on the Tracy Ullman Show. The Ringer did a list of the top 100 episodes and I noticed not one episode past season 9 is on the list. Fair or foul and what would you say is the last good season.
Apr 19, 2017 11:21 PM
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99-00?

edit: I mean season 11.
Apr 19, 2017 11:32 PM
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Janson Jinnistan99-00?

edit: I mean season 11.

I guess its a contained 90's pop culture thing?
Apr 19, 2017 11:51 PM
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Janson Jinnistan99-00?

edit: I mean season 11.

I guess its a contained 90's pop culture thing?

No, for me it's a qualitative thing. I mean, that the show has fallen off in quality in the new century is itself a meme, so I'm hardly alone in that, but I think that it was definitely seasons 12 and 13 where I personally started wondering what was happening. Others may push it back to the 8th or 9th season, and the classic era was already finished by this time, but I still enjoyed the show until about 00-01 when I began tuning in less and less.
Apr 19, 2017 11:55 PM
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So what was the episode when you knew it was over?? Poochie?? Homer joins the navy?
Apr 20, 2017 2:14 AM
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What did actually happen past season 10 did the writers leave?

Or did they just run out of gags?
Apr 20, 2017 2:19 AM
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TheZapperSo what was the episode when you knew it was over?? Poochie?? Homer joins the navy?

I havent seen many episodes at all, but I finally gave in a purchased the first nine seasons. Apparently there is an episode in season 9 about Skinner that Shearer, Groening, and the fans point to as early signs of the end of the "golden age".
Apr 20, 2017 2:26 AM
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TheZapperSo what was the episode when you knew it was over?? Poochie?? Homer joins the navy?

I havent seen many episodes at all, but I finally gave in a purchased the first nine seasons. Apparently there is an episode in season 9 about Skinner that Shearer, Groening, and the fans point to as early signs of the end of the "golden age".

Yeah, "The Principal and the Pauper," where you learn that Seymour Skinner is actually Armin Tamzarian, a man who adopted Seymour Skinner's identity. The real Seymour Skinner is kicked out of Springfield, and everybody agrees to never discuss what happened again. My personal "jump the shark" moment is "Homer's Enemy," where Frank Grimes very reasonably points out that Homer lives an utterly preposterous, generous, and unexamined life, and he is killed for this flagrant crime of lucid thought. And like "Pauper," everything is annoyingly back to status quo after this reality-breaking concept. Both episodes demonstrate to me a degree of contempt for people who've engaged with the show in good faith over the years - "Pauper" for breaking Skinner as a character, "Enemy" for pulling back on Simpsons reality to place it in a wider context with a more-or-less "real person."
Apr 20, 2017 3:12 AM
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I still think "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson" would have made a good series finale.
Apr 20, 2017 3:38 AM
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Quite-Gone GenieI still think "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson" would have made a good series finale.

What about "Behind The Laughter"?
Apr 20, 2017 3:51 AM
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Quite-Gone GenieI still think "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson" would have made a good series finale.

I'm pretty sure that's when seven year old me learned what a parking boot was.
Apr 20, 2017 4:02 AM
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Damn double posts are back with a vengeance.
Apr 20, 2017 4:02 AM
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TheZapperSo what was the episode when you knew it was over?? Poochie?? Homer joins the navy?

I was in denial for a long time. I knew it wasn't as good as it used to be, but "The President Wore Pearls" (season 15) was the episode that made me realize it was never going to be good again. Curiously, I continued watching the show for another three years purely out of habit, and had to force myself to stop watching it around the beginning of season 18.
Apr 20, 2017 4:06 AM
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Quite-Gone GenieI still think "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson" would have made a good series finale.

nah, Miracle on Evergreen Terrace
Apr 20, 2017 4:10 AM
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Quite-Gone GenieI still think "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson" would have made a good series finale.

To be fair, it was for me, in hindsight. Chatter over the years seems to suggest the same for many.
Season 5 is king for me. It's sillier than S4 & much much funnier, everyone's having fun in S5.
Homer's Barbershop Quartet is my #1 eps; swap meet follies are hilarious, Be Sharps formation & fame are on the money, + George Harrison cameo as cherry on top.
Moe's Cavern ftw.
Apr 20, 2017 1:51 PM
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I concur about Season 11 about being the last good season. Season 12 had a string of terrible episodes (the one where Homer gets raped by a panda, the one where he starts rumors on the Internet, the one where Lisa proves nerd sweat sets bullies off, etc.) that made me give up on the show entirely. I did tune in again to see the wife swap episode Ricky Gervais wrote, but I wish I hadn't.
Apr 20, 2017 2:14 PM
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Season 6 was the last great season, season 8 the last non-garbage season. I kept watching against my better judgment until there was an episode with fucking elves or something, at which point I snapped out of it.
Apr 20, 2017 2:29 PM
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kgaardSeason 6 was the last great season, season 8 the last non-garbage season. I kept watching against my better judgment until there was an episode with fucking elves or something, at which point I snapped out of it.

This is close to being my opinion as well, although I would downgrade season 6 to just "pretty good." My favorite stretch of the show is easily 2-4. I'm surprised that some of you are calling season 11 the last good season. It's awful.
Apr 20, 2017 3:01 PM
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kgaardSeason 6 was the last great season, season 8 the last non-garbage season. I kept watching against my better judgment until there was an episode with fucking elves or something, at which point I snapped out of it.

This is close to being my opinion as well, although I would downgrade season 6 to just "pretty good." My favorite stretch of the show is easily 2-4. I'm surprised that some of you are calling season 11 the last good season. It's awful.

Season 11 has some real crap, but it gave us Treehouse of Horror X, Pygmoelian, the episode where Barney gets sober and Behind the Laughter, so I give it a passing grade.
Apr 20, 2017 3:07 PM
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I hate all of those episodes, but I don't really like anything from season 9 - present.
Apr 20, 2017 3:13 PM
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