Controversial Opinion/Discussion thread

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So, copying this from another message board I frequent and that gave way to fantastic discussions about art and entertainment - although it also included music, some literature and more out-there topics like laugh tracks, etc. - what are some controversial opinions you have about a movie/movies in general? I'll start.

I find 1998 is such an underrated year in films. On top of my two favorite movies coming out that year - Buffalo 66 by Vincent Gallo and Seul Contre Tous by Gaspar Noe - a lot of very good movies came out that year (Happiness, The Big Lebowski, Bulworth, Another Day in Paradise, Festen, Dark City, The Idiots, Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Rushmore). Just a phenomenal year really. What's funny is that 1999 is considered such a great year but I think 1998 blows it out of the water. It was also better than 1994, although much closer.
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"I did not care for The Godfather."

No really, I didn't.
Mar 14, 2017 8:51 PM
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I like the soundtrack of Frozen much more than the soundtrack in The Lion King (come to think of it, I hate just about all of the songs from The Lion King, yet feel the opposite about Frozen).
Mar 14, 2017 8:55 PM
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I haven't seen The Godfather. Is that controversial enough?
Mar 14, 2017 9:16 PM
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Stu

"I did not care for The Godfather."

No really, I didn't.

I've always enjoyed them but always preferred the Scorsese movies - Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino - as compared to The Godfather 1 and 2 and to take it a step further, in the Mafia Genre, I think David Chase's The Sopranos is superior to both the works of Scorsese and Coppola.
Mar 14, 2017 9:40 PM
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I don't like Scott Bakula.
Mar 14, 2017 9:41 PM
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Superhero movies are inherently lame.


Er, there is an underlying lame-ness to every Superhero movie, including the good ones.

Mar 14, 2017 10:11 PM
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David BaileySuperhero movies are inherently lame.


Er, there is an underlying lame-ness to every Superhero movie, including the good ones.


I'm with you there. I'm not a fan of superhero movies.
Mar 14, 2017 10:31 PM
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I think that women are badly underrepresented in the director, writer, and producer fields and that movies as a whole would benefit from more equal representation.
Mar 14, 2017 11:24 PM
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David BaileySuperhero movies are inherently lame.


Er, there is an underlying lame-ness to every Superhero movie, including the good ones.


no, definitely not, no, no, no, yes, yes, no, yes, no, yes, meh.


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Competency is the crutch of those without vision and little to say. Unless you know how to reach for the stars with your learned talents, a la Tarkovsky or Kubrick or Dreyer or Hitchcock, you are unlikely to make anything as good as someone lacking in any formal training, with no money and a shoddy outline. Amateurism can't help but wear its heart on its sleeve, and those who aren't entirely versed in the language of cinema are forced to figure one out on their own. This gives these films a pulse that a good majority of films that are given wide release by major studios can never replicate.

In short, Tom Hooper is the worst.
Mar 15, 2017 1:43 AM
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Disney's Fantasia is a vulgar offense to classical musical. It attempts to elevate inane visuals through association with sublime music, but that association does nothing to enhance the music and only potentially devalues it. Dancing hippos aren't going to improve your child's appreciation of Ponchielli any more than that prenatal Baby Einstein nonsense will. And if your primary association with the music of Fantasia is with that movie's visuals, I truly feel bad for you. I think the movie robbed you of an essential experience in engaging with that music and replaced it with something as banal as anthropomorphized mops.

I'm sure others will point to the banalities of the plotting of classical ballets, but I'd still argue the ham-handedness of inserting a corporate mascot like Mickey Mouse into the proceedings goes beyond the pale.
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Shawshank Redemption:



Mar 15, 2017 2:18 AM
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crumbsroomCompetency is the crutch of those without vision and little to say. Unless you know how to reach for the stars with your learned talents, a la Tarkovsky or Kubrick or Dreyer or Hitchcock, you are unlikely to make anything as good as someone lacking in any formal training, with no money and a shoddy outline. Amateurism can't help but wear its heart on its sleeve, and those who aren't entirely versed in the language of cinema are forced to figure one out on their own. This gives these films a pulse that a good majority of films that are given wide release by major studios can never replicate.

In short, Tom Hooper is the worst.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITbSZxsvv7k

Mar 15, 2017 2:31 AM
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There is something seriously wrong with any grown man who enjoys Anime.
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David BaileyThere is something seriously wrong with any grown man who enjoys Anime.

even Hayao Miyazaki? surely you jest
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Is it even controversial at this point to suggest Gone With the Wind is complete trash? It's plainly an apologia for racism, but it should also be acknowledged that it was never dramatically well-structured as a movie to begin with. Scarlett is an unforgivable monster from the get-go, the entire middle act with Ashley is a drag, and Clark Gable is the only memorable presence in the movie, and he's completely underutilized. Oh, and again, it's fucking racist through and through. Something like The Birth of a Nation demands special consideration for its technical innovations despite its repellant ideology. Gone With the Wind isn't anywhere near as technically remarkable.
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I like The Beatles.
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John Wayne?

I fucked him.
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Love isn't real. It was invented to break our hearts.
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