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Apr 19, 2017 6:52 PM
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lol wut?

I thought Marshawn Lynch wanted to be retired. Isn't he a huge injury risk?
Apr 26, 2017 10:33 PM
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Paquitolol wut?

I thought Marshawn Lynch wanted to be retired. Isn't he a huge injury risk?

I wouldn't think him to be a huge injury risk if he is in shape. It'll be his age 31 season, sure, but outside of his last season in 2015, Lynch has incredibly durable. From 2010 to 2014, Lynch played 79 out of 80 games and now he's had more than one full year of rest.

The bigger concern for Lynch was that Thomas Rawls outplayed him two seasons ago.
Apr 27, 2017 1:01 AM
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There's always talk before the draft about the team with the #1 pick and what they intend to do with it. Believe me, I am familiar with it. But if Jimmy Haslam steps in and demands the Browns take Mitch Trubisky or any other quarterback above Myles Garrett with the first pick, I will reconsider my loyalty to the Browns. That's no small thing to me. Haslam already did this once with Johnny Manziel, and if he does it a second time this draft, then I doubt I will be able to muster any more fandom for Cleveland as I just don't have the energy. Right now I very much like this front office the Browns have brought in, and I am aboard this train, but I will likely jump off if a meddling owner interjects himself into personnel decisions.

That said, the Browns will take Myles Garrett. The Browns also need to stay put with the Eagles' #12 overall. I suspect Trubisky (a native Clevelander) will be gone by then, but I most want Patrick Mahomes for the Browns anyway. The Browns don't have to select a QB there as I also would be happy with help at safety or cornerback, but what the Browns cannot do is trade away high draft choices that would start for this team. There's no logic in trading a second and third-rounder to move up from 12 when this quarterback class is seen by most as a crapshoot. I would even rather the Browns select Trusbisky #1 and keep the three high picks (#12, second and third rounder) over simply grabbing Myles Garrett. The Browns need starters, and they need the high quantity of picks in order to hit on quality players. This front office has done amazingly well in collecting draft picks these past two years, and this draft class is extremely deep. The Browns have five choices in the first 65 picks, and they need to build around these early selections.
Apr 27, 2017 1:19 AM
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Myles Garrett to the Browns. Fantastic job throwing the 2016 season, Cleveland. It was all worth it.
Apr 28, 2017 12:20 AM
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Guys, no Chris Berman this year. It's beautiful.
Apr 28, 2017 12:50 AM
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Ian Rapaport says the Browns are trying to trade for Kirk Cousins. Meh. Just sit at 12 and take Patrick Mahomes.
Apr 28, 2017 12:52 AM
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MosesIan Rapaport says the Browns are trying to trade for Kirk Cousins. Meh. Just sit at 12 and take Patrick Mahomes.

Goddammit, Andy Reid. I hope you suffer a head injury that takes away your sense of taste.
Apr 28, 2017 1:26 AM
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I used the wrong thread. Why are they both on the front page.

Love the pick. Don't even know what they gave up to move up in the draft, don't care.
Apr 28, 2017 1:56 AM
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Moses
MosesIan Rapaport says the Browns are trying to trade for Kirk Cousins. Meh. Just sit at 12 and take Patrick Mahomes.

Goddammit, Andy Reid. I hope you suffer a head injury that takes away your sense of taste.

Yeah, but at least you didn't get Trubisky
Apr 28, 2017 2:45 AM
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Moses, apologize for probably ruining Jabrill Peppers.
Apr 28, 2017 5:35 AM
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Moses, how do you feel about the Browns Packers trade? At first glance grabbing the first pick of the fourth round to drop 4 spots is a big win for Green Bay.
Apr 28, 2017 2:53 PM
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WrecklooseI used the wrong thread. Why are they both on the front page.

Love the pick. Don't even know what they gave up to move up in the draft, don't care.

I hope this works out terribly for Kansas City.
Apr 28, 2017 6:01 PM
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Well, the Texans and Bill O'Brian clearly think Deshaun Watson is a franchise qb to give up next years first to grab him. I've been watching film and reading the takes on him and he seems to have some elite skills that could make him such a qb in the nfl(fast release, extremely fast reads of the defense and subsequent good decision making...), but some drawbacks on his arm as well(can float balls down field, and can float balls to the sidelines so it clears the linemen, as his release his fairly low).


But putting up 800+yards and 8td's to 1 int against the Alabama's D in 2 games can't be a bad thing. I almost expect the Texans to still pick up a vet though...have the cap room to sign one to a 1-2 year deal to let Watson see how it's done(or not done) if they want.
Apr 28, 2017 10:05 PM
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Of course it was the Bengals who took Joe Mixon. Great value though.
Apr 29, 2017 12:34 AM
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Jesus F. Christ, how many receivers do the Steelers need? As good as JuJu can be, that was a pretty fucking terrible pick.
Apr 29, 2017 2:08 AM
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Philip J. FryJesus F. Christ, how many receivers do the Steelers need? As good as JuJu can be, that was a pretty fucking terrible pick.

Let's talk in three years. Every pundits opinion, and everybody in this thread's opinion, it totally fucking useless regarding this draft at this moment. This is why the draft is for stupid sports fans.
Apr 29, 2017 3:22 AM
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I mean, Mel Kiper hit on 3 of 32 picks last night. Fucking three. Nobody knows shit, including the teams.
Apr 29, 2017 3:23 AM
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If you look at the drafts since Cleveland took Joe Thomas, year after year you see NFL pundits give Cleveland good to great grades for their drafts. And yet they've been easily the worst team in the league over that same stretch of time. That's in no small part due to the fact that they have whiffed on picks again and again.

That should be ground zero for not caring at all about supposed draft grades.

Also, take a look at lists of draft busts. Again and again you'll see players regarded as having high potential who got injured and never were quite the same physically again. The NFL so so rife with devastating injuries that it makes predicting which players will turn out that much more random. It's a certainty that there are players taken in the first round this year that would've been pretty good who will never see that potential realized because of some random injury that took their physical ability down a notch or two.
Apr 29, 2017 4:16 PM
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The Bears drafted a guard out of Kutztown. Guys, there's a university called "Kutztown."
Apr 29, 2017 6:25 PM
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