Hey! I Know What The Blue Box Means!!!

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So. It?s almost orthodox here at RT that the blue box symbolizes ?THE TRUTH?, yes?

And all that?s left for us to do is to determine what the truth is.

So here?s my theory.

The box, for me, is an intentional PUN. It?s a euphemism for the word VAGINA.

Hear me out before you laugh your asses off, please.

Everybody in this forum calls it the BLUE BOX, no? Never just THE BOX. That got me thinking??In gynecology, a blue ?box? or vagina could, but not always, indicate conceptus(a whole other cornucopia of PUNS in there) or simply, pregnancy. In Mulholland Drive, Diane?s blue box could indicate the possibility, or POTENTIAL, of BIRTH. Better yet, of REBIRTH. Diane wanted, consciously or no, to ?get rid of this God-awful feeling?(a la Dan Eyebrow Guy) or ?get rid of it?(The TROUBLE Coco was talking to Betty about). But in reality, the DEED/HIT has already been ?done? (hence the blue key), and so is IRREVERSIBLE. The only way for Diane to expunge everything would be to commit suicide and be ?REBORN? again as, judging from her dream, BETTY.

Hence the blue box in the drawer beside the gun. It is the ULTIMATE GOAL. It wasn?t DEATH Diane wanted, it was THE BLUE BOX. THE PREGNANT VAGINA. The chance to once again be a dynamic force in the orchestration of her OWN (ONCE-FAILED) DESTINY.

Okay, that was a bit of a stretch. But entertaining, in the least, yes???

Back to work (gynecology tome), sphygmo. *sigh, immersing self in pages and pages of ?blue boxes??.*
Oct 11, 2002 6:55 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sphygmo
Everybody in this forum calls it the BLUE BOX, no? Never just THE BOX. That got me thinking??In gynecology, a blue ?box? or vagina could, but not always, indicate conceptus(a whole other cornucopia of PUNS in there) or simply, pregnancy. In Mulholland Drive, Diane?s blue box could indicate the possibility, or POTENTIAL, of BIRTH. Better yet, of REBIRTH. Diane wanted, consciously or no, to ?get rid of this God-awful feeling?(a la Dan Eyebrow Guy) or ?get rid of it?(The TROUBLE Coco was talking to Betty about). But in reality, the DEED/HIT has already been ?done? (hence the blue key), and so is IRREVERSIBLE. The only way for Diane to expunge everything would be to commit suicide and be ?REBORN? again as, judging from her dream, BETTY.

Hence the blue box in the drawer beside the gun. It is the ULTIMATE GOAL. It wasn?t DEATH Diane wanted, it was THE BLUE BOX. THE PREGNANT VAGINA. The chance to once again be a dynamic force in the orchestration of her OWN (ONCE-FAILED) DESTINY.
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Further <B>'rebirth'</B> imagery?

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Oct 11, 2002 7:29 AM
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(excuse the lousy quality, my digital camera suffered a little <i>snow damage</i> last winter


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Oct 11, 2002 7:31 AM
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(sigh) we <i>really</i> need a site to STORE MD images around here.......this 'click on the attachment' thing is a little tedious......


anyway, here's some relevant stuff from symbolism.org:

<B>"8. Gates, Thresholds & Doors

Gates, thresholds and doors are all symbolic entrances into new worlds. These entrances can be into a new life or they might represent communication between one world and another world, between the living and the dead. The symbolism between gate and threshold is very similar. The symbolism of a gate, though, suggests more of a protecting and guarding aspect while that of threshold suggests simply a passage from one realm to another realm.

Thresholds symbolize unguarded or protected passages between the profane and the sacred. As J.C. Cooper points out, they symbolize a passage "from an outer profane space to an inner sacred space." A certain boundary line is represented by a threshold and often this boundary is the boundary between the natural world and the supernatural world. Some of the better known threshold symbols noted by Cooper are the symbol of sinking in water, entering a dark forest or a <i>going through a door in a wall</i>. They all represent a passage from the known into the unknown.

Doors are feminine symbols. In Psychology and Alchemy, Jung noted that doors contain all the implications of the symbolic hole. The appearance of gates, thresholds and doors is a commonality to all story genres. Usually the hero passes through them to symbolically mark the beginning of his journey."</B>


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Oct 11, 2002 7:33 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sphygmo
Back to work (gynecology tome), sphygmo. *sigh, immersing self in pages and pages of ?blue boxes??.*[/QUOTE]
that sounds horrific........




<i>i want pictures</i>
Oct 11, 2002 7:34 AM
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What blue box?
Oct 11, 2002 7:53 AM
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<i>from www.wisdomportal.com/Portals/PortalSymbolism.html</i>

<B>"Passage

The change from one plane to another, from this world to the next or the transcendent world. Passage from the profane to the sacred; the return to Paradise; gaining higher states of consciousness; transcending the pairs of opposites in the dualism and polarity of the manifest world. Paradox, as in itself transcending the limitations of the rational mind, is often employed in symbols of passage....."</B>
Oct 11, 2002 7:56 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Neely O'Hara
that sounds horrific........




<i>i want pictures</i>
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Okay. How about a box in a blue dress???
That's all I can come up with right now.
Enjoy.
Oct 11, 2002 8:00 AM
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BTW, nice shot. You're not fooling me with that 'excuse my digital camera' line, you photographer you.

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But ALAS I have to go back to work... WOrk work work.

*willing self to stop clicking on MD threads*

PS: Great symbolism ideas. I'll be back with more comments. Just give me a couple hours.

Hours?:confused:

:rolleyes:
Oct 11, 2002 8:08 AM
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What passage?
Oct 11, 2002 8:16 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sphygmo

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Hmmm, that's interesting about that also being an archway. 1612 Havenhurst has an arch and so does the entrance to the studio ...

are there any other ones that people have noticed?
Oct 11, 2002 8:36 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ctyankee
Hmmm, that's interesting about that also being an archway. 1612 Havenhurst has an arch and so does the entrance to the studio ...

are there any other ones that people have noticed?
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well, I'll say that the meandering path taken by the camera as it moves through Aunt Ruth's and Diane's apartments feels connected to the tunnel scene at Sierra Bonita to me.........they're both 'passageway' symbols.

ok, now SOMEONE tell me........

HOW do you post pics in here so that they're <i>visible</i> instead of as 'attachments'??

help!
Oct 11, 2002 9:21 AM
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ah ok......

nevermind
Oct 11, 2002 9:27 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Neely O'Hara


ok, now SOMEONE tell me........

HOW do you post pics in here so that they're <i>visible</i> instead of as 'attachments'??

help!
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Well, first of all you have to upload your pic to a server somewhere, for example - I upload mine to my personal web space.
Then, you open up the uploaded image in your browser, right click to get the properties, copy the url and paste it into the 'IMG' button field here on RT. Sounds pretty confusing, I'm not very good at explaining these things - but it's how I do it anyway.
Oct 11, 2002 9:31 AM
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Oh. I guess you don't need my help after all.:p
Oct 11, 2002 9:33 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Neely O'Hara
well, i think the easiest way seems to be: attach the pic to your post, click 'properties' to get the rottentomatoes URL of your uploaded pic, then edit your post and put the "<img src=(URL) thing in it [/QUOTE]

What happened there?:eek:
Oct 11, 2002 9:42 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by woodlouse
What happened there?:eek: [/QUOTE]
She didn't select the url completely?;)

What am I even doing here?

Work work work.....
Oct 11, 2002 9:53 AM
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It's not just a box it's a blue box.
Oct 11, 2002 7:39 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by OpenDreams
It's not just a box it's a blue box. [/QUOTE]
Which blue box? There's so many!
Oct 12, 2002 10:56 PM
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[QUOTE][i}originally posted by Sphygmo[/i]
[B]Okay. How about a box in a blue dress???
That's all I can come up with right now.
Enjoy.

Attachment: mastercard_limbo.jpg[/B}
yeeeeeoooowwwwch.


*peering more closely*



apparently she's not enjoying herself <i>quite</i> as much as her smile might suggest
Oct 12, 2002 11:34 PM
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