MD and Recovered Memories Theories

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I found the following sites on RM:

http://www.bfms.org.uk/site_pages/why_bfms.htm

http://www.bfms.org.uk/site_pages/myths_page.htm

http://www.bfms.org.uk/site_pages/brandon_report.htm

http://www.fmsfonline.org/

I don't really know where to start in terms of MD, but someone suggested that the Dan-Herb incident was a patient-shrink meeting. I don't know what this assumption is founded on, however.

Certainly, to me, as you know by now, Diane's memories are false, since I don't believe she had Camilla killed.
Feb 5, 2003 1:53 AM
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Once the electro/chemical balance in the brain has changed, and a memory has been altered by time, drink, sentiment, overlays and associations from other memories, hypnosis, or the meddling of the well-meaning, it is not physically possible to "recover" a memory. I don't think there is much scientific doubt on this score.

"Recovered" memories are reconstructions of events that may (or may not) have occurred in one's past. A famous example would be Whitley Streiber, who with the assistance of Budd Hopkins and others, "recovered" memories of being abducted by UFO aliens. But all sorts of memories that have no relation to reality may be "recovered." For example, a friend's therapist "recovered" memories of incest and Satanic abuse, which the friend was later to learn through research had never occurred. Her "real" memories are completely overlaid by the layers of fantasy induced by the "therapy." She cannot get them back. They're gone.

People who experience amnesia as a result of trauma or hysteria may naturally regain some of their memory. They don't usually recall the actual event however. I think police departments have pretty much learned the hard way that victim evidence is of shockingly poor quality and that hypnosis does little except point the finger at whoever the hypnotist happens to suspect at the time.

The relevance to MD? Not sure. If you don't believe Diane actually contracted to kill Camilla, it doesn't make her memories false, does it? It might just change the interpretation of what we're seeing from "memory" to "fantasy?"

Will ponder it more. This is just an "off the cuff" unedited rambling -- pretty typical for peachfront, I'm afraid!
Feb 5, 2003 7:51 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ID-ea
I found the following sites on RM:

http://www.bfms.org.uk/site_pages/why_bfms.htm

http://www.bfms.org.uk/site_pages/myths_page.htm

http://www.bfms.org.uk/site_pages/brandon_report.htm

http://www.fmsfonline.org/

I don't really know where to start in terms of MD, but someone suggested that the Dan-Herb incident was a patient-shrink meeting. I don't know what this assumption is founded on, however.

Certainly, to me, as you know by now, Diane's memories are false, since I don't believe she had Camilla killed.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the links.

I for one made the assumption that the Dan-Herb meeting was that between a patient (Dan) telling his dreams to his therapist (Herb) and the therapist (Herb) taking a dismissive attitude to see if there really was this scary "man in back of this place."

But looking at the pilot's screenplay link to screenplay there is no indication that Herb is a therapist.

However, by the same token, I could find no indication that "Joe, the Hitman" is actually a "Hitman"--we just draw that conclusion.
Feb 5, 2003 1:27 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by peachfront
If you don't believe Diane actually contracted to kill Camilla, it doesn't make her memories false, does it? [/QUOTE]

If Diane kills herself because she thinks she had Camilla killed (the false continuity memory cut "dinner/hitman"), it would be a case of false memory on Diane's part, perhaps triggered by a shrink visit.

Btw, I don't think there is enough support in the linked reports to say that recovered memories are likely always false. You just have to treat them with extreme care.
Feb 6, 2003 5:44 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ID-ea
Btw, I don't think there is enough support in the linked reports to say that recovered memories are likely always false. You just have to treat them with extreme care.[/QUOTE]

Right. Many memories of abuse turn out to be real; some are not. In practise, you can't dismiss them all as planted-by-therapists.

jk
Feb 8, 2003 11:55 AM
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